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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 23.06.2025 11:28

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

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Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

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We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

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ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

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Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

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ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

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ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

then who is there to know what happens without?

Why do subpar women think that they are nines and tens?

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

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Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

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To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Now here in this verse

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

NOW…

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

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Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Sain (a barber)

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

CONCLUSION:

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥